Is the "white dragon flag of England" a neo-Nazi symbol?

"We wave the flag of old England on high; over past glorious battles the white dragon did fly"

— Martin Cross, neo-Nazi musician, in "Ballads of the White Dragon" (2000).

UPDATE: I have noticed that a large number of people are discovering my blog through this post. As the post in question is a little meandering, and does not include information that I found after I originally wrote it, I suggest that new readers instead read this post. There, I provide conclusive evidence that the white dragon flag was created by a neo-Nazi group in the 1980s. Then you can head back to this post for additional background detail.

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Most of the "Englisc" nationalist organisations that I have written about on this blog share a symbol: a white dragon, usually in the form of a flag. Many Englisc nationalists think that this image should be adopted by England as its "true" flag, as opposed to the post-Norman flag bearing St. George's Cross. According to these groups, the white dragon was used by the Anglo-Saxons of pre-Norman England to represent their nation.

Here is what WhiteDragonFlag.co.uk, the official website of the English Flag Society, has to say:

Investigation by John Green, Secretary of The English Flag Society, of the Early English period between the third and eleventh centuries A.D disclosed many references not only to the White Dragon Emblem, but also others, such as the Boar, Raven, Wolf etc.Careful and scrupulous investigation, coupled with analysis of numerous references, showed clearly that the White Dragon, in terms of its representation of Englishness, was clearly the most popular.

The site fails to provide any evidence for these claims, of course. It goes on to state that “It is hoped that the White Dragon Flag will... replace the quasi religious Papal/Norman invention known as the St. Georges Cross”.

Given the lack of citations, and the obvious political agenda, I am rather suspicious about this account. So, I decided to do some research into the symbol's origins for myself...


Red and White Dragons

In using a dragon for its flag, the Englisc nationalist movement is obviously taking a leaf from the book of Wales, which has a red dragon as its flag. So, I will start by looking at the history of the Welsh dragon.

The usage of a red dragon as the national standard of the Welsh goes back at least as far as the reign of Henry VII, who carried such a symbol at Bosworth. The symbol was associated with the seventh-century Welsh king Cadwaladr, although - from what I understand - there is little or no historical evidence that Cadwaladr himself used the red dragon as his emblem.

Even more relevant is an earlier symbolic usage of the red dragon to represent, not the Welsh specifically, but the Britons in general.

The Historia Brittonum, a work widely (if controversially) attributed to the ninth-century Welsh monk Nennius, contains an account in which King Vortigern witnesses two fighting serpents, one red and one white; the white serpent initially appears to be winning, but it is ultimately driven out by the red. A boy, Ambrose, interprets the red and white serpents as representing the Britons and Saxons respectively:

The serpents began to struggle with each other; and the white one, raising himself up, threw down the other into the middle of the tent, and sometimes drove him to the edge of it; and this was repeated thrice. At length the red one, apparently the weaker of the two, recovering his strength, expelled the white one from the tent; and the latter being pursued through the pool by the red one, disappeared. Then the boy, asking the wise men what was signified by this wonderful omen, and they expressing their ignorance, he said to the king, "I will now unfold to you the meaning of this mystery. The pool is the emblem of this world, and the tent that of your kingdom: the two serpents are two dragons; the red serpent is your dragon, but the white serpent is the dragon of the people who occupy several provinces and districts of Britain, even almost from sea to sea...

The same story is used by Geoffrey of Monmouth in his History of the Kings of Britain, which conflates Ambrose with Merlin:

As Vortegirn, king of the Britons, was sitting upon the bank of the drained pond, the two dragons, one of which was white, the other red, came forth, and approaching one another, began a terrible fight, and cast forth fire with their breath. But the white dragon had the advantage, and made the other fly to the end of the lake. And he, for grief at his flight, renewed the assault upon his pursuer, and forced him to retire. After this battle of the dragons, the king commanded Ambrose Merlin to tell him what it portended. Upon which he, bursting into tears, delivered what his prophetical spirit suggested to him, as follows:- 

"Woe to the red dragon, for his banishment hasteneth on. His lurking holes shall be seized by the white dragon, which signifies the Saxons whom you invited over; but the red denotes the British nation, which shall be oppressed by the white..." 

The Welsh legend of Lludd and Llefelys also contains a fight between red and white dragons. The beasts in this story do not serve an obvious symbolic purpose, although it is interesting to note that the white dragon is identified as a foreign invader - hinting at a connection with the story of Ambrose/Merlin and Vortigern.


Did Saxons Use a White Dragon Emblem?

So, it is the legend recounted by Geoffrey of Monmouth and the author of the Historia Brittonum that contains the earliest known usage of the white dragon as a symbol of the Saxons. But how widespread was this symbol, and was it ever used by the English themselves to represent their nation?

Well, I have to say, my research has turned up little to substantiate the Englisc nationalists' claim that the Anglo-Saxons ever used the white dragon as a symbol of their country.

Certain sources indicate that a white dragon was used as the standard of Wessex; the seventeenth-century writer Winston Churchill (an ancestor of the twentieth-century Prime Minister) made this claim. However, other sources state that the Wessex standard was a gold dragon: Henry of Huntington writes of "Æthelhun, who led the West Saxons, bearing the royal standard, a golden dragon", and in present-day heraldry the symbol of the Wessex region remains a gold dragon.

The Bayeux Tapestry depicts Harold II alongside a pair of dragon banners - a red one in the air, a white or gold one on the ground:

The tapestry does depict a warrior with a white dragon on his shield... but his lack of facial hair indicates that he is a Norman, not an Englishman:

So, in summary, historical evidence for the Anglo-Saxons using a white dragon as a symbol rests on two facts:

1: A small body of legend, possibly of Welsh origin, uses a white dragon to symbolise the Anglo-Saxons;
2: The Anglo-Saxons sometimes used dragons as standards (as did other peoples) and some of those dragons may possibly have been white.

That's about it. Pretty thin rationale for redesigning England's flag, don't you think...?


The White Dragon in Modern Times

There's an English nationalist blog called Berrocscii's Banner that is unusually forthright about the white dragon flag's questionable vintage:

This flag, it has to be said, has its critics from within English nationalist circles. For the bigger picture I suggest you use Google, but to cut a long story short, there are questions over the flag's authenticity. Keen advocates claim it to be the prime Anglo-Saxon standard of pre-conquest England, but primary sources are few and arguably flakey. However, if Celtic identity can be reinvented and romanticised, then why not an English one? [...] The White Dragon, in it's present form, has been around since the 90s and it doesn't look like a flash in the pan. 

So, he openly admits that the flag was designed in the 1990s, and that its usage is an attempt to mimic the romanticised silliness of Celtic nationalism. But if the flag is a modern invention, then who invented it?

Well, when I was researching this subject, I found a revealing thread over at the Anglo-Saxon Foundation. One member, Valkyrie, asks about the origin of the white dragon flag used by the movement:

Paul Young, who posts at the forum as "Yngvi", comes out and admits that the white dragon flag is a modern invention:

Valkyrie asks who designed the flag; Paul states that he knows the answer, but declines to name the flag's creator:

Then another member, Ingelsman, claims that the flag was invented by Woden's Folk in the late nineties:

The thread lasts for twenty pages in all, but nobody disagrees with Ingelsman's claim - not even Paul Young, who is himself a member of Woden's Folk. From this, it seems safe to say that - yes - the "white dragon flag of England" is the creation of Woden's Folk.

Young stands by the flag despite its modern vintage, and apparently considers Valkyrie to be an "orcish fucking butt sucking shit cunt 3rd stage syphillis suffering bottom feeding rat shit smothering Anglophobic turd burgling wanker" for questioning its authenticity:

Valkyrie, meanwhile, seems suspicious of the group that created the flag

And she is right to feel this way. I have written about Woden's Folk multiple times before; founded by a mentally ill Nazi named Wulf Ingessunu, it is a white supremacist cult that believes Hitler to have been an avatar of Woden and that the 1980s ITV series Robin of Sherwood was a divinely inspired work of prophecy. These are not people who should be put in charge of designing England's new flag.

The Red Field

I have seen multiple variations of the white dragon flag used by nationalist groups. Here is the version used at the Anglo-Saxon Foundation; I believe it was designed by the forum's owner, Seaxan:

Here is the logo of the Steadfast Trust:

Here is a version on sale from WeAreTheEnglish, a site run by former Steadfast trustee Julien Crighton:

This appears to be the most common variation, incidentally - it was used by English Shieldwall, amongst other groups:

Here is a version uploaded to Wikipedia by the user Mafiga:

Here is a version designed by Dan Capp for the cover of Edmund Dee's book White Wyrm Rising:

Here is a version flown at a Woden's Folk event at Avebury:

Here's the version favoured by the nationalist blogger Berrocscii:

And an image search for "white dragon England" turns up even more variations:

Notice something that they all have in common? Each of these white dragons is against a red field. A few Englisc nationalists deviate from this model - the current Steadfast Trust website has a white dragon on gold, for example - but the overwhelming majority have a white dragon against a red field.

As we have seen, there is little hard evidence that the Anglo-Saxons used white dragon symbols at all. So, we can reasonably infer that the convention of a red field was introduced by Woden's Folk when they designed the white dragon flag of England.

Why a red background? Well, perhaps it is a holdover from the current flag of Wessex, which also has a red field. Perhaps it is a reference to the colour scheme of St. George's cross.

But that said, given the role of a neo-Nazi cult in the design of the flag, I have to wonder if the colour scheme was inspired by an altogether more infamous flag that also had a black and white design against a red field...

Here's a version of the white dragon image that makes the similarity even more explicit:

Is the white dragon flag of England a neo-Nazi symbol...?

The Northants English Welfare Society and Stephen Osborne

I've written before about the Northants English Welfare Society (NEWS), which is fronted by a neo-Nazi who operates under the pseudonym of "Walter Greenway". In another post I mentioned that somebody had found my blog by entering the search term "walter greenway northants english welfare stephen osborne".


Who is Stephen Osborne? Well, I came across this page on the NEWS website:

Here's a closer look at the photo - notice the golliwog perched proudly atop the shelves:

The same man appears to be present in this photograph of a Northants English Welfare Society protest:

("Refugees not welcome"? And neo-Nazis like Walter Greenway are welcome, I suppose...?)

It would appear that NEWS is not the only far-right group that Mr. Osborne has been involved with. in the 2011 local elections, the BNP's candidate for Westone was one Stephen Osborne - and as Westone is a borough of Northampton, the odds are pretty high that this is the same Stephen Osborne who is now involved with the Northants English Welfare Society.

One post on the NEWS blog shows Stephen Osborne, along with someone called Robert Osborne, as children:

I mention this because the aforementioned Walter Greenway also had an old-fashioned photograph of a child as his avatar:

Could it be that "Walter Greenway" and Stephen Osborne are one and the same? It's a possibility...

The Steadfast Trust loses the plot

The saga of the Steadfast Trust continues...

The organisation was deregistered by the Charity Commission early last year, although it may well have died even without this occurring. One of its supporters, Darren Clarke, has said as much on Facebook:

Still, it seems that somebody involved with the Steadfast Trust is willing to keep at it, and the website has been given a recent overhaul. Oddly, the charity's official Facebook page still hasn't been updated since April 2015, with bewildered bigots leaving comments asking what has happened. This suggests that the organisation has undergone a change in management, and whoever is running the shop now does not have access to the Facebook page.


Bizarre rantings

Whatever else can beside about the original Steadfast Trust, the articles on its website were at least competently written. The same cannot beside of the new version: the writing here can be charitably described as green ink.

Here is how the site summarises the Steadfast Trust's 2015 woes: with a slideshow of World War II photos.

The site's second news report carries on in a similar vein. It begins with conspiracy theory:

This time around, the Steadfast Trust's opponents are directly compared to Nazis:

Seems a bit rich from an organisation that has previously associated with known neo-Nazi groups.

This gallery also contains a picture showing a policeman chasing a group of naked preadolescent boys. How the Steadfast Trust could feel that a photograph of naked children would be an appropriate thing to post is beyond me, and I have taken the liberty of censoring it:

In another slideshow, the new Steadfast Trust offers a distinctly pro-Christian slant - something which was not noticeable with the previous version of the charity. The site still acknowledges that practitioners of "English paganism" make up a significant portion of the Steadfast Trust's support base, however:

The new Steadfast appears also to be pushing an Atlanticist line. Here, it claims that the pilgrims who settled in America "did so because they want[ed] to live in England as a state of being":

Whoever put these slideshows together has certainly been busy. Too bad they didn't take the time to actually make their arguments coherent. I mean, look at this stuff:

Outside of slideshows, the site is also home to this unreadably garbled rant about race relations in contemporary Britain:

AND finally in pursuit of the old British State and Empire policy of DIVIDE ET IMPERA:- 

(a) That phrase “Black British” may be officially treated by institutions of the UK state including the Charity Commission as referring to an ethnic group that is to be afforded all the rights and privileges in law accorded to people of an ethnic or nation group.  This is to be so even though the UK State, including acting by the Commission for Equality and Human Rights, officially recognises the phrase “Black British” to  be referring to skin colour group – a group formed of people having a black skin colour whilst in the possession of British citizenship. 

(b). That persons who are mixed or multi in origin must stay in the mixed or multi census group in which they can be put according to skin colour and/or race mix and as such  cannot be members, let alone 100% members, of any other ethnic or nation group on the census form. 

(c) That brown and yellow people are to be preferentially treated by never labelling them as such. 

And these are just some of the God awful legal implications of the Charity Commission decision to remove The Steadfast Trust from the Charity Register. 

We know – yes this really is an “you what?” moment  and it begs the questions -” Is it meant to produce schizophrenia?”.  Was it meant to put a poison pill into inter communal relations?.   Was the purpose to wipe out of existence the indigenous communities of the UK  by the stroke of a civil servant’s pen.  Well you decide the answer to all these questions!. 

The burden of having all this garbage sorted out has fallen on The Steadfast Trust; an organisation that has an income of less than £10,000 a year – that is below the level of which an individual is considered wealthy enough to pay taxation.  The burden has fallen on an organisation, The Steadfast Trust, that has been intentional vilified in the public domain as being extremist far right, racist, national socialist (Nazi), white nationalist, etc etc etc.

To top off the weirdness, the Steadfast Trust has adopted the Broadway number "The Impossible Dream" as its theme song.


A Change of Location

Significantly, the organisation appears to have relocated its office during the last year. The earlier version of the Steadfast Trust website gave an Macclesfield-based address, while the new one claims to be located in Stratford-upon-Avon. Furthermore, I looked up the Whois information on the site and found that the provided address for the registrant is in Bury; I do not remember this being the case beforehand.

I looked up the Bury address and found that it belongs to a company called SVM Consultants, which was formed on April 2015. This is a very obscure company with almost no Internet presence. CheckCompany lists its officers as being Stephen and Valerie Morris, but beyond that the only relevant information I could find about it is that it is credited with running a Wordpress blog called England In My Heart:

For reasons of privacy, I blocked out part of the address to be on the safe side.

From here, we can find out exactly who is behind SVM by looking at the comments on the blog's "about" page:

Stephen Morris is a Bury-based English Democrat who stood in the 2015 election. I have not previously come across his name in connection with the Steadfast Trust, but given that its website is registered to his business address, it seems safe to say that he is involved with the current version of the organisation.

But whoever is in charge right now, there is a blatantly obvious flaw with how the Steadfast Trust is now presenting itself: nothing it says makes a lick of sense. It cannot hope to attract supporters with this kind of foaming-at-the-mouth gibberish, and so this development looks less like a revival and more like a last gasp.

Woden's Folk and mental illness

Wulf Ingessunu

Woden's Folk has been a recurring topic on this blog for a while. Founded by a man who calls himself Wulf Ingessunu, the cult has a number of bizarre beliefs - such as its insistence that a line of dialogue from a 1980s TV series is an "ancient prophecy", or its claim that Hitler is a divine avatar. But exactly what is it that drove Ingessunu to these outlandish notions?

I now have a pretty good idea of the answer to that question.

Wulf has been active on his blog lately. "Woden's Folk - The Year to Come" is a typically garbled post which starts by raving about "the Coming of The Man to Come - The Avenging God" before going on to quote dialogue from the film The 13th Warrior; it is inexplicably illustrated with a 1934 Latvian propaganda poster and clipart of some wheat.
More interestingly, however, he recently posted this statement:

When I went through the Shamanic Initiation back in the spring of 1997 I was watching the TV with my family and could at one point see letters moving across the screen, letters which no-one else could see! Over and over I said that I could see 'subliminal' letters but no-one else could see them. They were very much like the above 'Occult Symbols' which are a Masonic Alphabet.

What Wulf is describing here is clearly a hallucination. The NHS has a list of more likely causes for this "shamanic" occurrence:

• taking illicit drugs or alcohol
• a mental illness such as schizophrenia or dementia
• a progressive neurological condition such as Alzheimer's disease or Parkinson's disease
• loss of vision caused by a condition such as macular degeneration – this is known as Charles Bonnet syndrome

Wulf's post abut his hallucination made it to FSTDT, where it received a very intriguing reply from an anonymous poster:

I agree with what this Grand-Master is saying, he appeals to the Englisc-Folk, and everyone who is right-thinking has seen the secret Masonic codes lurking on TV. I am a proud member of Woden's Folk, and I am not Wulf Ingessunu who is brilliant, has mystic powers and he is the avatar of Woden, thus he is Woden. His words are divine law. 

I have to deal with my friends, who have been tricked by the shadow that clouds most of the Englisc, who have not Awaked yet. They like branding me as a trans-woman in denial, how daft. Yes, I do want to be a woman, but then, doesn't everyone? 

Most men long to be women, as a result of the mind being exposed to the Dark-Forces that threaten to stop Woden's Folk, who have Awaked to their True Role in stopping the evil from growing any stronger. Also, I want to get rid of the more bigoted parts of Woden's Folk, who belong to the shadows. They disgrace Woden's Folk. 

I've tried to tell Wulf Himself not to talk to them, but he never listens. How hard can't it be for Woden Himself to spot these Occult-Nazis? This must be part of a cunning plan by Wulf who is Woden's Avatar. 

So mote it be. This is the truth. What do you think of it?

Now, we should consider the possibility that this person is a troll. If they are sincere, however, then they clearly have some sort of mental disorder. Sadly, they have fallen under the sway of Wulf Ingessunu, a man who has his own untreated issues and is in no position whatsoever to provide guidance to any similarly troubled individuals. Both people need professional help, not mystical hocus-pocus about Woden.

For more evidence of Ingessunu's mental health issues, consider this post from his Guerrilla Survivalism blog:

Water - this is a product that is today sold to us through our water-authorities; it is filthy water purified by chemicals such as chlorine, and added is fluoride which helps our teeth - we are told! It is dead-water that contains no Life-Energy because it comes through pipes and through the tap. This can only be understood when we consider how water flows in the natural world - it flows through water-courses which create movements of water and vortices which swirl one way and the other, a movement that energises the water. These water-courses are the earth's veins, arteries (rivers), and blood-vessels (steams and brooks), which carry the Earth's Blood (water) around the Earth. 

Wulf follows this gibberish with advice on how to restore "life-energy" to water:

As for tap-water, some of these 'energisers' are nothing more that methods of 'spinning' the water in a vortex-movement, using left and right spins alternatively, just as water moves along a river or stream. If this is so then the most simple way would be to fill a bottle with filtered tap-water and then spin the water round one way, emptying the bottle into a glass jug. Then the water would be put back into the bottle, spun the other way, and emptied into the jug again. The water in the bottle would empty in a spiralling vortex fashion emulating the natural flow of water. This could be done Nine Times one way and then Nine times the other way. 

Wulf's paranoia about unclean and "dead" water, and his nonsensical belief that water takes on special properties when swirled back and forth nine times, suggests obsessive compulsive disorder (OCD). Take a look at some of the OCD symptoms listed in Fundamentals - A Guide for Parents, Teachers and Carers on Mental Health and Self-Esteem by Lynn Crilly and Natasha Devon:

• Fear of being contaminated by germs or dirt, or of contaminating others
• Excessive focus on religious or moral ideas
• Order and symmetry - the idea that all physical objects must line up “just so
• Special attention to something considered lucky or unlucky ("superstitions")
• Praying or engagin in rituals triggered by religious fear to an excessive extent.

Wulf Ingessunu's absurd ritualistic behaviour and obsession with perceived contamination certainly overlaps with these symptoms.

With this in mind, let us take a look at some of the other members of Woden's Folk. Look at this discussion from a now-defunct forum, in which Woden's Folk cultist Paul Young claims to be in personal contact with invisible entities:

In addition to the Aesir gods, my Hearth recognize and relate to a wide variety of spiritual beings or 'wights'. These include the Norns - who are three female entities who weave the web of wyrd - and the Disir - who are female ancestral spirits attached to a tribe, family, or individual. we also work with 'hidden folk' such as elves, brownies, dwarves and etins (giants and other not so pleasant folk). They interact with the landwights who occupy features of the landscape such as streams, mountains, forests or fields. Having a relationship with landwights is an important feature of in our religion and outdoor rituals we carry out only proceed until the permission of landwights is sought and obtained.

Does Young actually believe that these elves and giants are talking to him? Can he hear their voices? If so, he should pay attention to the advice offered at Mentalhealthcare.org.uk:

Researchers have estimated that up to 90 per cent of people who have schizophrenia and up to 80 per cent of people who have bipolar disorder or psychotic depression hear voices either talking to them, or talking about them. 

Voice-hearing experiences are very individual. People may hear just one voice, or two or more voices, and the voices may be speaking at a normal level, or they may be whispering or shouting. The voices may say individual words or sentences, or have detailed conversations – with each other or with the voice-hearer. Someone may hear the same voice or the same voices regularly – each voice may have its own distinct qualities and characteristics, including a name. 

[...] 

Voices can also be noisy, strident, annoying and disturbing. Sometimes they are persuasive, or demanding, telling a hearer what to do – these are called 'command' voices. 

People who are unwell sometimes feel they have no control over the voices they hear, and may be very frightened and distressed by them. They may believe the voices are powerful and will harm them if they do not do as they say.

Wulf, if you are reading this article, please seek help. You are not "awakened", you have not undergone a "shamanic initiation", you have succumbed to mental illness. There is no "Woden", there is only a voice in your head. Your followers have not "heard the call of the blood", they have heard auditory hallucinations. Convincing them that they are a divine elect will do nothing but harm. These people need help, not hocus-pocus.


UPDATE: Wulf Ingessunu has replied to this post, although his response has done little to sway me. He confirms my suspicion that the aforementioned posting from FSTDT is a troll, rather than a genuine Woden's Folk member, but he says nothing about Paul Young's claims that elves are talking to him.

Ingessunu's defence rests on the bizarre notion that conventional psychiatry  has no bearing on him because he has a "Germanic Psyche":

The problem is that today's psychiatry, psychoanalysis or psychotherapy is based upon Sigmund Freud rather than upon Carl Gustav Jung, the latter having a far better understanding of the Germanic Psyche - i.e. the Germanic Gods. Thus, any form of 'diagnosis' through psychiatry, psychoanalysis or any other 'psycho' that 'Maggie' would like to quote in regard to these likely causes comes through in a form that is not suited to the knowledge of the Germanic Psyche. I am not suggesting that 'Maggie' is not an expert in her field but that expertise may not be right in regard to the Germanic Psyche.

He also complain that "We on the so-called 'Far-Right' are always accused of being 'a loner' or having 'childhood problems' that make us believe what we do". I didn't mention anything about childhood problems in this post - the fact that Wulf felt the need to bring this topic up in his rebuttal suggests that it is a sensitive topic to him.

Another comment that seems to have particularly bothered Wulf is my suggestion that he has unchecked issues. He apparently responded by obsessively looking up the word "issue" in the dictionary, which would only reaffirm my suspicions:

I have been through various English Dictionaries to find what the word 'issue' really means, and not one of them comes up with the answer 'problems', which is what is clearly meant in this statement. The modern usage of the word 'issue' is typical of the people who have influence in the 'Progressive Society'. One meaning of the word is 'topic of interest' so maybe that is what you mean Maggie....'What do you think?'

Commenting on the list of OCD symptoms identified by Crilly and Devon, Wulf dismisses the authors by claiming that "these people are what is termed 'Cultural Marxists' who cleverly promote Marxist Communism through destroying all genius amongst our Folk, and by attacking those who do not conform to the material economic society."

Wulf also restates his absurd belief that swirling water around in a glass gives it "Life-Force":

Since this part of the attack was about what I said about the water supplies I will explain to Maggie what I meant, since she (he) clearly does not understand. The water that comes through our taps is 'dead water' unlike the water that comes from a spring or well etc. The suggestion that I made was not based so much upon 'magic' as such, but when you spin the water around it collects air, and since air is the medium for the Life-Force then it collects Life-Force. (Quantum Science or Aryan Science recognises this in terms of what scientists call Zero-Point Energy; Materialistic Science cannot do so because only the material world is recognised).

Not everyone is convinced by this claim, however:

At the start of this post I mentioned that Wulf Ingessunu had, without explanation, quoted dialogue from the film The 13th Warrior on his blog. When responding to me, he made the bizarre decision to do it again, this time claiming that the lines were "chanted by the Angel of Death":

Except that, as I have already demonstrated, this song was not "chanted by the Angel of Death", it was made up for a film. It does have a loose historical model, but this was spoken by a slave-girl shortly before she was sacrificed to Odin - not "the Angel of Death".

Is Wulf Ingessunu trying to tell us that he has heard this "Angel of Death" reciting the above piece of movie dialogue? If so, this is clearly another auditory hallucination.

English Advocates plan to strip ethnic minorities of their rights

English Advocates - a Facebook page run by Lee Ingram - has started a new campaign. It hopes to ensure that all ethnic minority citizens will be barred from holding positions of authority in England, and that anyone who stands in the way of this movement will be arrested.

The Advocates believe themselves to have solid legal grounds for this endeavour, using a quotation from the Bill of Rights 1688 as a basis:

In their rush to justify their racist agenda, however, the English Advocates have grossly misrepresented the document in question.

Here is the relevant passage in full:

New Oaths of Allegiance, &c.
And that the Oathes hereafter mentioned be taken by all Persons of whome the Oathes of Allegiance and Supremacy might be required by Law instead of them And that the said Oathes of Allegiance and Supremacy be abrogated. 

Allegiance.
I A B doe sincerely promise and sweare That I will be faithfull and beare true Allegiance to their Majestyes King William and Queene Mary Soe helpe me God. 

Supremacy.
I A B doe sweare That I doe from my Heart Abhorr, Detest and Abjure as Impious and Hereticall this damnable Doctrine and Position That Princes Excommunicated or Deprived by the Pope or any Authority of the See of Rome may be deposed or murdered by their Subjects or any other whatsoever. And I doe declare That noe Forreigne Prince Person Prelate, State or Potentate hath or ought to have any Jurisdiction Power Superiority Preeminence or Authoritie Ecclesiasticall or Spirituall within this Realme Soe helpe me God.

So, what the Advocates are quoting is part of a pair of oaths. Oaths are binding only to people who actually make them, and the Bill of Rights does not specify who is required to make these oaths.

In this day and age, of course, nobody is required to make either of these oaths - the fact that one of them mentions William III and Mary II indicates just how outdated this section of the Bill of Rights is. These oaths are historical artifacts, nothing more.

This is not the only fatal flaw in the English Advocates' plan. Notice that the second oath refers specifically to positions of religious authority; this is evident even in the section quoted by Ingram and company, who are apparently unaware of what the word "ecclesiastical" means.

As anybody with any knowledge of English history will tell you, the Bill of Rights was drafted at a time of great strife between Catholics and Protestants. The reference to "noe Forreigne Prince Person Prelate, State or Potentate" is not directed at immigrants or descendants of immigrants living in England, but rather to individuals and bodies based in foreign countries - it is an obvious allusion to the Roman Catholic Church.

Lee Ingram, the man behind English Advocates.

To recap, Lee Ingram and his comrades are making three fatal errors in their reading of this document:

1: That the oaths are legally binding to everyone in the country, even those who have not actually made them;
2: That "foreign" refers to ancestry, rather than geographic location;
3: That the second oath covers all positions of authority, rather than merely religious authority.

Nice try, Lee. But while the replies to your post demonstrate that your followers have fallen for your misrepresentation of the Bill of Rights, not everyone is quite so gullible. Any legal expert would laugh their socks off if you came to them with this nonsense.

This is not the first time that Ingram has expressed interest in removing the rights of ethnic minorities.  Take a look at these posts he made at the now-defunct Cross of St. George forum back in 2007 (the thread is archived here):

The article he links to, with obvious approval, is hosted on the white supremacist website Heretical Press. Written by Kenneth McKilliam, a Nazi sympathiser who was closely involved with the BNP during its early days, the article argues that Jews should not be allowed to hold positions of authority in Britain:

Being prohibited aliens by the Edict of Expulsion Jews have no right to sit in our houses of parliament, nor on our local government councils. They have no right to be in the judiciary nor to hold office in the executive of government nor in the police force. All purported laws and purported acts of parliament in which Jews have taken part in the voting are illegal, unconstitutional: null and void. 

Stripping ethnic minority groups of their rights, it would seem, is a cause dear to Lee Ingram's heart.