More on the neo-Nazi White Dragon Flag of England

The "white dragon flag of England" has been the dominant theme of this blog for a while now, and here I have another post shedding light on its origins as a neo-Nazi symbol.

In my first post on the subject, I pointed out a posting from the Anglo-Saxon Foundation where somebody states that the flag was created by Woden's Folk:

As I demonstrated here, Woden's Folk is a neo-Nazi cult that reveres Hitler as a messiah.

On 7 October Wulf Ingessunu, the mentally ill Nazi who founded Woden's Folk, made a blog post about the white dragon. He clearly did so after reading my post on the subject, as he used one of my images. Here is his account of the flag's origin:

The revival of the White Dragon Banner started back in the mid-1980's through the original White Dragon Kindred. Woden's Folk was formed on April 23rd 1998 and took up the revival of the White Dragon, which soon spread when it was made into a flag by the English Flag Society, who worked separately in reviving the symbolism, although the idea was put into the magazine of The English Companions (using the pseudonym 'Folk-Wolf') so we cannot tell whether it had been taken up from here or not. Whatever the case the White Dragon was revived and spread through Englisc Nationalism. 

The symbol spread very quickly, and at one time I did warn that we would be well not to totally discard the English Cross which began to be suggested. This was only because the White Dragon was, and still is, not well known amongst the English people at large, indeed when it is used many see it as a 'Welsh' flag. There have been arguments against its use because there is little historical evidence to show that the English used it as a symbol. This really does not matter at all since it is the symbolism that counts, and this symbolism is relevant to our struggle today.

So, in Ingessunu's version of events, the white dragon flag was invented not by Woden's Folk, but by a group called the White Dragon Kindred. He then goes on to analyse the symbol, which he associates with anti-Zionist conspiracy theories:

The White Dragon is the symbol of the struggle against the Red Dragon of Juda-Rome, the 'Great Red Serpent' mentioned in Revelation. The 'Red Serpent' or 'Red Dragon' is symbolic of 'Rome', the 'Treaty of Rome' (The EU), the USA (which sports the Roman Eagle as its symbol of imperialism) and the British State. It is also the Serpent Rouge of the Priory of Zion.

The post fails to provide any solid evidence of the white dragon being significant symbol to the pre-Norman English, and eventually descends into the kind of hocus-pocus gibberish that is typical of the clearly unhinged Ingessunu. At one point he brings up the Seven Swords of Wayland, which were created for the 1980s television series Robin of Sherwood:

In Wodenic Lore the Seven Swords of Wayland are symbolic of the Seven Tribes of Ingwe who have come together in these islands, and who make up the English Folk-Nation. These tribes have come from Northern Germany, Frisia, Sweden, Denmark, and Norway through the 'Anglo-Saxons' and the 'Vikings'. Northern Germany and Scandinavia were populated by the Ingwaeons ('Friends of Ingwe') who have thus united into one nation here in these islands. The Seven Swords of Wayland are a counterpart to the Seven Swords of the Seven Sons of Mimir. These swords are taken up just as Ragnarok approaches. These Germanic Tribes have united under the White Dragon Banner. 

The Seven Swords of Wayland are thus an important symbolism, even though they are found in a TV Series (remember that all this is archetypal); the Seventh Sword of Wayland is named 'Albion' and is wielded by The Hooded Man. Albion is an ancient name for England, and since Hengest is one of the Divine Twins, and thus Divine Ancestors of the English, he is the same archetype as Ingwe (and also The Hooded Man). In previous articles I have likened the Seventh Sword of Wayland to the Sword of the Wolsungas, i.e. the 'Broken Sword'. Albion = The White Island = The White Dragon.

So what, exactly, was the "White Dragon Kindred" that supposedly created the white dragon flag? I did a search on this group's name, and - with one possible exception - all of the sites that turned up were connected to Woden's Folk. The only person I could find who admitted being a member of White Dragon Kindred was Wotans Krieger - who also happens to be the most outspoken Nazi in Woden's Folk, and who appears to be using the names "Woden's Folk" and "White Dragon Kindred" more or less interchangeably:

Out of the blue approximately 9-10 years ago I received a mail shot from Woden's Folk and something resonated deep within me. I duly responded and joined that organisation as a Supporter, then quickly progressing on to an apprenticeship, becoming a Fellow of the White Dragon Kindred after my initiation and taking of the Oath of Profession.

Given that Ingessunu's group has operated under multiple names (including English Movement, Woden Brotherhood and Woden Folk-Community) I began to suspect that the White Dragon Kindred was simply an earlier name for Woden's Folk.

My suspicions were confirmed when, while working on this post, I found that Ingessunu had made another post on his blog about the white dragon in direct response to me:

'Radical Britain' ran a blog-post tracing the origins of the modern White Dragon Flag to Woden's Folk. Since WF was founded in 1998, and the symbol had been around and used over a decade before this, the statement is not strictly true. The first use of the symbol within the Heathen Movement was through the White Dragon Kindred which then operated as a separate group made up of activists within Odinism. I ran the White Dragon Kindred but this was well before WF was formed. [Emphasis mine]

There we have it: the neo-Nazi Ingessunu admits to being the man behind the White Dragon Kindred, the group which invented the white dragon flag.

Ingessunu then goes on to state that the flag contains a visual reference to the swastika:

The symbol we use is 'four-footed' which links it to the Fylfot-Swastika or 'Fol's Foot'/'Four Foot'. The fylfot is a spiral shown in a two-dimensional symbol. This also fits with the White Dragon being symbolic of our own Milky Way Galaxy, which is a spiral made up of 88 constellations.

After this, Ingessunu draws a parallel between the white dragon and the Nazi swastika:

The power of a particular symbol can be seen in the Swastika used by the National Socialists, a symbol of extreme power - an Aryan Symbol. True, this symbol had been used by many groups before, but the Swastika seemed to take upon itself a power of its own, a power that would unite a nation which was on the brink of collapse. 

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The White Dragon Symbol seems to have taken upon itself a life and power of its own. It spread rapidly amongst the Englisc Nationalists until the movement splintered; but today the symbol has moved beyond the confines of Englisc Nationalism and is being used by various groups who oppose the New World Order. By instigating the collapse of Englisc Nationalism the powers-that-be seem to have inadvertently caused the symbol to spread even further afield, mainly amongst the stronger and more militant groups. It has even moved beyond the confines of the English.

Furthermore, Wulf states that the flag's colour scheme was baed around St. George's Cross: "We used the White Dragon on Red background from the start, as the colours of the English Cross Flag". So much for the nationalist belief that the white dragon flag predates George's Cross!


The "white dragon flag of England" is not an age-old Anglo-Saxon symbol, it is a neo-Nazi symbol. We now have direct confirmation of this from the man who first commissioned it. Any organisation that flies the white dragon should be treated as suspect.

The White Dragon Flag on Wikipedia

My last two posts have been about the history of the white dragon flag, which was designed by neo-Nazis who have tried to pass it off as a pre-Norman symbol. When researching the history of the flag, one resource I came across is the Wikipedia entry for "white dragon". This is a shoddily-written and referenced piece of work, even by Wikipedia standards. Who wrote it, I wondered?

So, I checked the article's history.

The original version of the article was written by an editor named Domrivers. This editor spent most of the article talking about the medieval legend of the red and white dragons fighting, before making the following (entirely accurate) comment about the symbol's more recent adoption by nationalists:

There is no archaeological evidence that the early Anglo-Saxons used a white dragon to represent themselves, however, some modern English nationalist groups still promote its use in place of the St George's cross to emphasise their claim of ancestry from the Germanic Anglo-Saxons, in contradistinction to the "Celtic" Britons.

After a few minor edits by other contributors, the fist significant addition to Domrivers' article came from someone called Mafiga. Mafiga would appear to be a nationalist: s/he deleted Domrivers' correct statement about the lack of archaeological evidence connecting the white dragon symbol to the Anglo-Saxons, and added this claim:

The White dragon is said to have been carried at the Battle of Stamford Bridge and the Battle of Hastings. One the Bayeux Tapestry this is shown in the form of two images of a dragon.

Of course, as I pointed out in my earlier post, the only unambiguously white dragon on the Bayeux Tapestry is being carried by a Norman, not a Saxon. Mafiga's version of the article also notes a few post-Norman instances of the white dragon symbol being used in England.

A later editor pointed out the article's lack of sources. Absurdly, Mafiga responded by posting a black-and-white reproduction of part of the Bayeux Tapestry, with the caption "The dragon can be seen next to the name Harold". But in the original tapestry, the dragon next to the name Harold is clearly red, not white.

After this, a string of editors made minor edits, or added irrelevant information that was later reverted - the examples here, here and here being particularly amusing:

In the anime series High School DxD the rival of main character Issei Hyodo is the white dragon emperor Albion, Vali Lucifer. Their rivalry is based of the battle between the red dragon of the welsh and the white dragon of the english.

Reshiram is a legendary Fire/Dragon type Pokemon that resembles a white wyvern.

The white dragon is also used as a sex term. When a male ejaculates in a women's mouth then proceeds to tickle her. Therefore forcing the man juice out her nose making it look like a white dragon.

But beyond this, the article has had no significant additions. This means that the page, in its current form, is largely the work of Mafiga.

In short, the Wikipedia article on the white dragon (itself a suspect topic in terms of notability) has been hijacked to promote a nationalist agenda.